Coming Out
Ever meet someone whose experiences or personality meant that you “clicked” with them in a surprising or unexpected way?
I think this has only happened to me a few times. It happened when I met my very good friend from law school. We are very different people with lots of different interests, but somehow, when we met at law school orientation, we clicked. Something in our perspectives was aligned in a way that startled both of us a bit, and our differences don’t seem to matter as much as that core of sameness.
It happened also (in a much more limited way) with the secretary at my work who, despite our very different experiences and backgrounds, understands how special nursing is to me because she had a good experience nursing her own children. Like me, she nursed her son for several years. Like my son, hers refused the bottle. When I told her about his bottle refusal, she wasn’t just interested or sympathetic – she was empathetic, because she’d been there, and the conversation about something so personal flowed easily because she understood just what I meant.
It happened most profoundly when my husband and I visited a sewer museum in Paris (yes, you read that correctly – a museum about sewers). The young man staffing the museum struck up a conversation with us. We lingered, and then he told us the museum was ready to close, but if we’d wait a few minutes, he’d change and meet us outside. We were startled by his enthusiasm, but we agreed, and the three of us spent several wonderful days in Paris together. Though it’s cliché, it really was as if we’d always known each other. Cultural barriers were nonexistent, and we talked easily late into the night each day that we spent together.
Anyway, I have a colleague at work with whom I have a great deal in common. But our experiences are very different – he is a black man who has struggled with obesity (and I add that last point because it is an important part of his identity, from his own perspective). He is also a Christian minister.
Nonetheless, we’ve had animated and wide-ranging discussions about a host of issues, from Iraq to the death penalty to pop culture, and been surprised and delighted at how often we come out in the same place. We’ve also enjoyed talking very frankly about race and gender issues, sometimes in the context of the current Democratic primary campaign.
But one issue I’ve carefully avoided is religion. He often talks about his church and his belief in a creator God, but I say nothing about my own beliefs. I just thought it might be uncomfortable for both of us.
But yesterday, he stopped by to ask what I thought of the Rev. Wright flap surrounding Senator Obama. I told him I didn’t think it was a very big deal, but that I hesitate to pass judgment since I am an outsider to the controversy twice over – I am not part of the black community, and I am not part of a religious community. So he asked what religion I practice. Wanting to sound vague and noncommittal, I told him I wasn’t raised in any religion and am non-religious. But he pressed on – so what do I “call” myself, he asked?
An atheist, I finally replied, feeling like the closet door had been flung wide open.
He was quiet for a minute, and then finally said, “No, no...you’re not REALLY an atheist...”
Yes, I insisted, I really am. A materialist. A rationalist. Whatever you want to call it. But an atheist, by definition.
“An agnostic?” he asked hopefully.
But I was firm – an atheist.
Now remember, he is not only a Christian – he is a Christian minister. I am sure he did not want to proselytize, but I don’t think he could help himself. He pulled off his watch and dangled it between us for a moment. And then he launched into the well-known “watch designer” argument. I responded, quietly, that it is a misperception that rejecting a creator means that one must believe the universe around us is the result of pure “chance.”
So then he asked me if I did not see the face of God in my own children, if their births were not miracles of divinity. I told him that while their births were among the most powerful moments of my experience, they were also the most materialist, the most real, the most earthy – not divine at all, from my perspective. (And I was thinking about how birth – with its pains and the amniotic fluid and the blood and the intensity makes me feel at once connected to my mammalian relatives and yet intensely human at the same time – but I didn’t go into that...)
In the end, he told me a few Bible stories meant to explain his own faith, and then we wrapped up the conversation. But it was clear to me that atheism is, to him, a negative. It was a shortcoming of mine, from his perspective. And it’s intriguing to me that someone with whom I have frankly discussed issues of race, gender, and class was startled and confused – and maybe a little disappointed? – in my rejection of gods.
It will be a curious thing to observe how flinging open the closet door may color our conversations. I hope that after all of the tricky and potentially divisive categorizations of humanity that we have successfully navigated, this one doesn’t trip us up.
I think this has only happened to me a few times. It happened when I met my very good friend from law school. We are very different people with lots of different interests, but somehow, when we met at law school orientation, we clicked. Something in our perspectives was aligned in a way that startled both of us a bit, and our differences don’t seem to matter as much as that core of sameness.
It happened also (in a much more limited way) with the secretary at my work who, despite our very different experiences and backgrounds, understands how special nursing is to me because she had a good experience nursing her own children. Like me, she nursed her son for several years. Like my son, hers refused the bottle. When I told her about his bottle refusal, she wasn’t just interested or sympathetic – she was empathetic, because she’d been there, and the conversation about something so personal flowed easily because she understood just what I meant.
It happened most profoundly when my husband and I visited a sewer museum in Paris (yes, you read that correctly – a museum about sewers). The young man staffing the museum struck up a conversation with us. We lingered, and then he told us the museum was ready to close, but if we’d wait a few minutes, he’d change and meet us outside. We were startled by his enthusiasm, but we agreed, and the three of us spent several wonderful days in Paris together. Though it’s cliché, it really was as if we’d always known each other. Cultural barriers were nonexistent, and we talked easily late into the night each day that we spent together.
Anyway, I have a colleague at work with whom I have a great deal in common. But our experiences are very different – he is a black man who has struggled with obesity (and I add that last point because it is an important part of his identity, from his own perspective). He is also a Christian minister.
Nonetheless, we’ve had animated and wide-ranging discussions about a host of issues, from Iraq to the death penalty to pop culture, and been surprised and delighted at how often we come out in the same place. We’ve also enjoyed talking very frankly about race and gender issues, sometimes in the context of the current Democratic primary campaign.
But one issue I’ve carefully avoided is religion. He often talks about his church and his belief in a creator God, but I say nothing about my own beliefs. I just thought it might be uncomfortable for both of us.
But yesterday, he stopped by to ask what I thought of the Rev. Wright flap surrounding Senator Obama. I told him I didn’t think it was a very big deal, but that I hesitate to pass judgment since I am an outsider to the controversy twice over – I am not part of the black community, and I am not part of a religious community. So he asked what religion I practice. Wanting to sound vague and noncommittal, I told him I wasn’t raised in any religion and am non-religious. But he pressed on – so what do I “call” myself, he asked?
An atheist, I finally replied, feeling like the closet door had been flung wide open.
He was quiet for a minute, and then finally said, “No, no...you’re not REALLY an atheist...”
Yes, I insisted, I really am. A materialist. A rationalist. Whatever you want to call it. But an atheist, by definition.
“An agnostic?” he asked hopefully.
But I was firm – an atheist.
Now remember, he is not only a Christian – he is a Christian minister. I am sure he did not want to proselytize, but I don’t think he could help himself. He pulled off his watch and dangled it between us for a moment. And then he launched into the well-known “watch designer” argument. I responded, quietly, that it is a misperception that rejecting a creator means that one must believe the universe around us is the result of pure “chance.”
So then he asked me if I did not see the face of God in my own children, if their births were not miracles of divinity. I told him that while their births were among the most powerful moments of my experience, they were also the most materialist, the most real, the most earthy – not divine at all, from my perspective. (And I was thinking about how birth – with its pains and the amniotic fluid and the blood and the intensity makes me feel at once connected to my mammalian relatives and yet intensely human at the same time – but I didn’t go into that...)
In the end, he told me a few Bible stories meant to explain his own faith, and then we wrapped up the conversation. But it was clear to me that atheism is, to him, a negative. It was a shortcoming of mine, from his perspective. And it’s intriguing to me that someone with whom I have frankly discussed issues of race, gender, and class was startled and confused – and maybe a little disappointed? – in my rejection of gods.
It will be a curious thing to observe how flinging open the closet door may color our conversations. I hope that after all of the tricky and potentially divisive categorizations of humanity that we have successfully navigated, this one doesn’t trip us up.
